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June 8, 2012

As all the readers of Vindicating Michael know the blog has been closed to comments. The administrator of VMJ has decided that she cannot continue writing, at least for the time being, if and when she changes her mind we hope to make the happy announcement here as well.

In the meantime David and I will be transferring his and my posts from the former blog to this one.We will be under construction so to speak for the time being. This may take sometime because it will have to be done one post at a time but we will continue with the summaries of the testimonies to keep things flowing.

In the meantime feel free to comment about articles that you have read on VMJ of your interest as you can still read them and copy and paste the particular section of your interest. Here is hoping we can all help each other in the daunting task of continuing the Michael Jackson Vindication.

In the meantime let’s watch what made this great man the greatest entertainer of all time and remember what an astounding human being he was.

From the First:

To the best:

To the last:

Thank you

Lynette

P.S.

Here is a link to the “about the blog” page: https://michaeljacksonvindication2.wordpress.com/about/ If you have any further questions or comments, please leave them on that page. I will be adding an update to that page soon with additional information that I need to get off of my chest.  Thank you!

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  1. February 11, 2013 5:08 pm

    Strange question – do you guys have any of the interviews where either Ray or someone like Dimond claimed that Jordan had flown out of the US during the trial? I know someone claimed that back then, but I can’t remember who.

  2. June 15, 2012 8:22 am

    I am so happy you are letting us know this, but unforunately for me I am unable to copy or paste on either site vindicate 1 or 2? And will all the blogs from 1st blog/documents of 2009-present will always be up or eventually be taken down?

    • sanemjfan permalink
      June 15, 2012 10:05 am

      @ninakey033
      When you say that you can’t copy or paste anything, what do you mean? Are you trying to copy and paste the text? I was able to successfully do so; our blogs don’t have anti-copy and paste software on them.

      The VMJ blog is archived and closed to commenting, but it will never be deleted. Lynette and I have copied all of our posts to this new blog, so you can comment on them here. Unfortuantely, you won’t be able to comment on Helena’s posts on the VMJ blog anymore, but if you have any questions on them, you can ask us on this blog and we’ll do our best to answer them.

      I’m sorry for all of this! We had some personal issues come between us, but tried to keep it behind the scenes, but Helena decided to no longer work with us, and by archiving the blog she hurt fans who rely on the blog.

  3. kaarin22 permalink
    June 13, 2012 4:57 pm

    I cannot resist a comment read in a totally different context,by Thomas Wolfe:” (s) he was like a butterfly hovering around my penis”. Sort of fits the trials.

  4. Rodrigo permalink
    June 13, 2012 4:05 pm

    Somehow, I think Larry Feldman drilled it into Evan’s head about the idea of accusing Michael. He was a friend of Evan’s, he was a lawyer, a devious one and obviously knew how to do things and not do things. How nothing incriminating could be brought back to him. As long as Larry, Evan and Jordan all stuck to the story, they would have the 20 million. Different tactics and precautions were utilised for the scenarios, depending on how Michael played things on his side.

    Others had to have been involved as well, Evan pretty much confirmed that in his drunken rant with Dave Schwartz…And I’m guessing a percentage of that money went to them as well…Cause we all know people close to Michael have sold him out and lied about him for years, so it must have been people who knew him rather well. There were plenty of people who once worked Michael who came out the woodwork and got paid to say this and that about him in 1993…People who knew him personally and intimately, and it’s not a far fetched thought, cause Evan and Feldman would have needed EVERYTHING at their disposal to ensure complete and safe success at obtaining that 20 million and not have everything crash down on them.

  5. kaarin22 permalink
    June 13, 2012 3:18 pm

    .lynande, we all know Evan was dying to stop fixing teeth. He was grandiouse and thoght he had a future as a filmdirector.He just needed enough money to start that career he thought.
    Evan also had a housekeeper whose stagtement I came upon somewhere hidden in the long VMJ blog: As soon as Michael had been staying in the Chanler house Evan stopped
    his dentristy. He put much thought,cunning and energy to execute his plan.

  6. kaarin22 permalink
    June 13, 2012 3:05 pm

    I am sad if the old blog is dicontinued. Hopefullu this new one can offer material of the same standard.

  7. lynande51 permalink*
    June 12, 2012 8:43 pm

    It gets even better than just a father reporting it to the police. Evan Chandler was a dentist and dentists just like every other medical person out there are mandatory reporters. That meant that if he made a report of his concerns to the common entry point which is DFS they would have investigated it just like they were supposed to. It is also that he could not be sued if he made the report in good faith and not with an alterior motive.
    So a good question would be is: If Jordan told you this on July 16th why did you not go ahead and report it that day? Why use Dr. Abrams? Why call and give a hypothetical of the circumstances and not report it to Dr. Abrams? Why get a lawyer before he even said anything to you and demand meetings before Jordan even said anything? I’m sorry but that whole thing defies reason when you know that he was legally mandated to report even a suspicion and did nothing.

    • Rodrigo permalink
      June 12, 2012 8:54 pm

      Exactly!

      The whole event was set up strategically by Evan and his co conspirators to get that 20 mil from Michael!

  8. lynande51 permalink*
    June 12, 2012 6:26 pm

    @ Rodrigo
    It’s funny that you asked that question about paying the Chandlers from the beginning but I’ll let Ray Chandler answer that from the book All That Glitters bottom of page 128;

    “Had Michael paid the twenty million dollars demanded of him in August, rather than the following January, he might have spent the next ten years as the world’s most famous entertainer, instead of the worlds most infamous child molester”

    Why did Evan Chandler demand anything from Michael? That to me says that there was a demand for money and it was extortion. But guess which attorney said it might sound lilke extortion but in this case it was perfectly natural because of Michael’s personal worth? Gloria Allred. She was the one that thought it was okay for someone to demand money from someone without first proving that the case had merit. They admit to the fact that Evan demanded money from Michael! What part of extortion is it that people don’t get?
    Why would MJ fight it? Why would he not have paid if he had oney to silence them later why not silence them before anyone knew anything? It makes no sense. Just like Evan’s second lawsuit? Suddenly the only one allowed to exploit and profit from his sons exploitation was Evan Chandler.

    • Rodrigo permalink
      June 12, 2012 8:20 pm

      A lot of people, Allred included, try to come up with excuses for Evan’s handling of the situation. Trying to defend his actions. But it honestly doesn’t work, because no parent of an abused child would ever do what he did. And I’ve seen a lot of different excuses for Evan’s decision.
      My favourite is this – Last year on a certain site, Evan was a loving father, who could do nothing but have his silence bought by Michael. This year he’s now a bad father who cashed in on his son’s abuse…and this comes from the same people! It’s truly laughable. But to them, Michael HAS to be guilty, and Evan HAS to be truthful in whatever fantasy scenario they dream up. A major conflicting flaw in logic right there!

      The truth is, Evan Chandler and a couple others strategically plotted, blackmailed and extorted Michael Jackson for a crime he didn’t commit. It only came out cause Evan was ******* himself with fear when he knew he had to hand Jordan over to June, so he concocted up another story with the kid, relayed it to the psychologist, who had to tell the police. Then we get pitiful excuses for that…cause Evan feared that Jordan would be abused by Michael again…But here’s something…if Evan was so concerned about his childs safety…THEN WHY THE HELL DIDN’T HE REPORT MICHAEL TO THE POLICE HIMSELF? IF HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT CHILDREN’S SAFETY, THEN WHY WAS HE DEALING WITH A CHILD ABUSER IN THE FIRST PLACE? I’m sorry, but nothing can be excused for that. Though they try, they do try!

    • Rodrigo permalink
      June 12, 2012 8:43 pm

      What else is interesting, is the fact that opinions on Evan have changed, from good to bad. So, if they now realise he wasn’t a good father to Jordan, then surely they must think he was capable of doing bad things to his son? He almost killed him for God’s sake, can’t they see if he was capable of that, then he could be capable of doing other things as well? I refuse to believe they’ll believe some things, but not others. It’s like they have to drill into their minds that whatever went on, Michael was guilty, simple as that.

      And now that some have stopped believing Evan was such a good dad, I see the pattern of them referring to other things alleging to Michael’s guilt. But the journalists will still make out Evan was the victim, and coming up with excuses for Evan’s plot and his attempted murder of his beloved son…Where’s the logic? Where’s the consistency?

      Grasping at straws! 😀

    • June 13, 2012 12:35 am

      It may be because MJ had no way to know what Evan would do after the pay off. I mean Jordan would still need a psychiatrist who accept to not speak to the police.

      You also have the June probem: he had to let Jordan go with june and MJ or became a fugitive.

  9. Rodrigo permalink
    June 12, 2012 4:16 pm

    Here’s a thought.

    I know we see the same question, “If Michael was truly guilty, then why didn’t he pay Chandler from the beginning?”

    And we get the claim that Chandler didn’t want money, he only wanted justice, then was silenced, blah blah blah.

    But here’s the thing. Michael NEVER admitted his guilt to Evan, and remained adamant to his innocence all throughout their encounters. Now, IF HE WAS guilty, then why didn’t he just admit it and give in to Evan’s demand? Cause a lot of haters claim that Michael had been paying off parents for years, and when THEY were confronted, they denied any wrongdoing in an attempt to protect him. So, if other parents knew he was guilty, then that means Michael must have admitted it in some way to them. Why didn’t he do that with Evan then? Why did he admit to others and not to Evan?

    That seems to me that Michael has never payed to silence or admitted wrongdoing to anyone in his life, yet we get told otherwise by haters and the media.

    And another thing we get told..People close to Michael knew he was guilty, but wanted to protect him. People who surely have brains obviously…SO WHY DIDN’T THEY THINK ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD COME OUT ABOUT MICHAEL? If they knew he was 100% guilty, then things would have been done way differently at the time. If Michael knew he was guilty, things would have been done differently. They would have used their brains and none of it would have come out. But because Michael was innocent, and everybody around them knew it, Evan tried his damn hardest to say differently and that’s why it came out…Cause Evan stepped up his extortion game, with tactics no one saw coming because of Michael’s innocence.

    Bottom line…if Michael was guilty and everybody knew it, then brains would have been used and it would never gotten out. It only came out cause of Evan’s desperation in order not to be exposed as a liar.

    And it still amazes that people think Evan was a decent human being…telling an alleged child molester to give him money and no more will be said about it. **** that.

  10. lynande51 permalink*
    June 10, 2012 6:48 pm

    That particular Motion was a little more complicated than that. Sneddon was trying to get them admitted as hearsay evidence where it would be what HE was told not even what Jordan told him. He was going to try to get them introduced with out the description given to Lauren Weiss. He was not in the room when the photos were taken and he did not want to have the jury match it to the photos he just wanted to get on the stand and swear that he was told that there was a spot where Jordan said there was a spot. In his declaration it was a dark spot.
    In 2003 when Paul Zellis swore out an affadavit for the search of Neverland Jordans description and a summary of his police statment was attached to that warrant. The original 1993 warrant for the photographic search of Michael’s body is what was attached to the 2003 search warrant.The original one was sealed by a judge in 1994. It had to be unsealed in 2003 for it to be attached to the 2003 warrant. They had to go to a judge and have it released to be attached. It was unsealed from November 17th 2003 until January 24th 2004. In that time certain members of the press gained access to it through police insiders and they did not release it to the public but they did read it.
    That said he was not even trying to have comparison of the photos and the description just the photos and what he was told was on them. That is why TSG has a light spot and Sneddons declaration had a dark spot. The police photographer Gary Speigel was the one in his police report that said he thought he saw on dark spot on MJ’s penis but there is no photo that confirms that
    Suffice it to say whatever color that spot was did not matter because the glarlingly pobvious difference was the uncircumcised penis.That is exactly why Michael walked out that day otherwise he would have been arrested on the spot because the whole reason for doing the search in the first place was to gather evidence that the alleged crime had occured. It could neve have been for any other reason that is the only reason they get search warrants in the first place.
    So long story short Sneddon wanted to introduce them and then testify that they were a match without unsealing the original search warrant to for comparison. His other tact was to introduce the warrant without the photos to prove it was a match. Just how bad did he want to show the world those photos?

    • nannorris permalink
      June 11, 2012 10:15 am

      So Sneddon wanted to testify that he was told it was a match?? Is that correct..Seems he has been fixated on MJ penis 24/7 for years..Certainly seems like some kind of power trip to me…
      How anyone can look at MJ privates and realize he isnt circumcised and instead of taking a hard look at the White/Chandler family, go the route of somehow Black/ MJ is so rich , that he bought a foreskin off some other guy and had it surgically attached to get away with something is insane.
      I think this is why his team wanted him to settle..Not because it matched because it didnt..But it proved Sneddon was on a crusade to bring MJ down any way he could…

  11. Truth Prevail permalink
    June 10, 2012 6:10 pm

    @lynande51

    Okay thanks so it was the judge it must have been irrelevant because if it was the smoking gun for Sneddon and his team The judge probally would have allowed then.

    • shellywebstere permalink
      June 10, 2012 6:21 pm

      He refused it because you can’t allow police interview in a trial if the defense never had the possibility to cross exam the witness.

  12. Truth Prevail permalink
    June 10, 2012 3:00 pm

    By the way who was it that barred the MJ photo’s from the trial was it MJ’s side or the prosecutors.

    • lynande51 permalink*
      June 10, 2012 5:47 pm

      It was the judge. In order to have them admitted the prosecution submits a Motion to have them admitted. Then the defense has five days to answer with a Reply. Then the Motion is litigated (argued) before the court (the judge). It is the judge that determines if the evidence is admissable or not. Neither side gets to decide any of the motions they are either granted or denied by the judge based on the merits and the applicable law.

  13. June 10, 2012 11:12 am

    Wishing you all the best in this new endeavor.

  14. Rodrigo permalink
    June 10, 2012 8:46 am

    Sigh…here we marvel at the creature known as the ‘MJ hater’. A rather unusual specie indeed. Notice it’s angry, incoherent babbling, as it spews it’s poison about the place. But interestingly, the poison is actually quite harmless and pointless, as it does no real damage to it’s target.

    The MJ haters’ natural habitat is a place where they can fester and grow, and pick off any other creature that wonders into their midst. They usually stay within the habitat 365 days a year, making no effort to venture out, making their little lives all the more tragic. Though rarely, like this little one here, they do go on the hunt, but only out of frustration, hoping to get a meal, because the habitat he was in has kicked him out for spamming the place.

    And if you do so happen to come across these creatures, please for your own safety, use whatever help you can find at Michael Jackson Vindication 2.0, and squash them right away! 😀

    • June 10, 2012 3:38 pm

      No, a loser is someone who doesn’t know the proper use of punctuation. And look up what the word “junkie” means, read the coroner’s report, and then come back.

    • June 10, 2012 11:30 pm

      Ok the hater comment I was responding to got deleted. Ignore this guys. 😀

  15. lynande51 permalink*
    June 9, 2012 8:45 pm

    Thank you Helena for the kind words of encouragement. It was always part of my dream in vindicating Michael that we could find a way to show people the truth. It was never done before. When cameras were not allowed in the courtroom in 2005 it hampered the publics perception of the case because most of the mainstream reporting that was done was pro prosecution and pro conviction. To this day most people don’t know exactly what went on in that courtroom. If they did they would never question why Michael was found innocent. This is it! This is the place where we will show our readers and the fan community and hopefully the general public that the trial in 2005 was not because Michael did anything wrong but was in fact a crime that was committed against HIM!And I would like the people that committed those crimes to be held accountable publicly for what they did! That is the way our justice system is supposed to work! A persons life was in the balance and media pundits like Nancy Gracy, Diane Dimond and the list goes on and on should never be allowed to do this to anyone again. Think about what happened to MJ and remember it could also be you.

  16. Helena Nelson permalink
    June 9, 2012 8:35 pm

    This is a comment that Elena decided to delete from The previous Blog so I thought I would share it here.
    “I think David Edwards has offered a wealth of Knowledge to this Blog. It’s a shame in my opinion that someone’s ego , and other people with vendettas have lead it all to come to this! But what I have to say to that is I wouldn’t gloat to soon, because once David has all of his posts added to the other blog that is going to be posted , ego’s and vendettas will no longer matter. The thing I find that distinguishes what has gone on here, between David and others , is David has laid it all out on the table, all of the evidence for his side of what ACTUALLY happened is laid out on the table for all to see, where others as David has said has been cherry picked and brought to the table.It falls inline to everything I have seen from David Edwards , in his posts on this blog , even in the midst of having to defend himself against all of this mess. I know nothing but the BEST is what’s to come for this new blog ! It’s all facts here !

  17. lynande51 permalink*
    June 9, 2012 7:05 pm

    Thank you truthprevail for the well wishes.The email that was displayed on VMJ was written by David in late Spetember of las year. SInce that time he has gone on to write 40 more posts and 2 of them were on Arthur Wright another entertainer that also suffered from vitiligo. The email was written before Brett Ratner corrected his story. It should also be added that Brett was going through a period of not thinking before he spoke because it was right around the time that he had to withdraw from producing the Oscars in 2012. That is how misunderstandings happen.
    Anyway thanks again for supporting our new blog. David updated his testimony summary this morning and it looks like it will be page turner.

  18. ninibambi permalink
    June 9, 2012 5:18 pm

    God bless you David and Lynette and thank you for all the work you made ! Good luck for the new blog…love ♥

  19. Truth Prevail permalink
    June 9, 2012 3:37 pm

    Well firstly i was shocked and disappointed been away for 2 days and when i come back I find separation. The Vindication blog is/was a BIG eye opener for me its a real shame its came to be dividing.

    And David you were saying you will not defend MJ if someone ridicules him of his vitiligo i must advice you you should defend him against that because many are unaware of the disease and some don’t even believe its real so it good to put people in check. I too understand why you were upset over MJ’s actions and don’t really support him doing that to people but i think Brett Ratner put it in perspective and that he said they weren’t looking for specifically for homeless people and they don’t even know if the guy was homeless. I can see Michael doing these pranks but i can’t see him deliberately going out to get homeless people.

    ANYWAY POWER TO THIS BLOG! 🙂

  20. Shirl permalink
    June 9, 2012 2:46 pm

    VMJ has been my go to blog since I found the link on another blog a few years ago. I am always excited when I get an email about a new post. I have copied, pasted and printed so many articles that I started making binders for myself to reference (and others to read). I am truly sorry to hear what has happened between you all, It seems like there are so many of these “break ups” in the fan community. But I think sometimes things are for a season; for a certain time in our lives…we usually know in our hearts when that season is over. But…To David and Lynande51, thank you for continuing the work that you started in vindicating Michael. I am looking forward to reading your new blog. Blessings to both of you.

  21. Rodrigo permalink
    June 9, 2012 9:45 am

    One of the greatest humanitarians as well 🙂

  22. June 9, 2012 9:43 am

    We are appreciative of the fact that Lynette and David will forge a new path her on this site and look forward to their analysis and research that has been so in depth and factual. We support their endeavors here on Vindicatemj 2. Also, a day hasn’t gone by that we haven’t used a reference from an aritlcle at VindicateMJ and are extremely relieved to know that the site will not be deleted. It is necessary to have a counter point to all of the senstionalized misinformation online and a reference for all the members of the MJGlobal family to utilize.

  23. Susan permalink
    June 9, 2012 9:07 am

    I was shocked to learn of the demise of “Vindicating Michael” site. I don’t know how many times a day I would check in to read the articles and the comments. The work everyone did was truly awe-inspiring. I can appreciate how we’ll never know just what a huge sacrifice of your time this work actually was and is. I am so glad to learn that David and Lynette will continue, as this work is invaluable. New fans are always going to want to know the truth about Michael and with this new site, hopefully this will continue. Old fans (like me) never knew the details of the trial and it is fascinating to read the transcipts and actually see the deception and lies in black and white – so sad what was done to Michael. I am learning so much and discuss with my husband each new post. He, too, never believed Michael guilty but was stunned at the lengths Sneddon and cronies went to, in order to get a conviction.
    So, thank you David and Lynette for continuing the task. God Bless you and much good luck!!

  24. Rodrigo permalink
    June 9, 2012 8:29 am

    @ Phoenix
    Helena has said that the blog will be archived and will remain open. It’s not going to be deleted.

  25. Phoenix permalink
    June 9, 2012 7:50 am

    I think I missed it, so I have to ask. Will VMJ still be accessible even if there won’t be any more posts or is there a plan to delete it completely?

  26. aldebaran permalink
    June 9, 2012 1:26 am

    Good luck with the new blog!

  27. Rodrigo permalink
    June 9, 2012 12:50 am

    While it is very sad and unfortunate what has happened, I’m here to let you know, Lynette and David, that everything has my complete support!

    Long live Vindicatemj 2 🙂

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